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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

succes la chinuiala Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danny_vlad wrote:
De azi inainte o sa ma tot chinui sa golesc si sa umplu o butelie de BT65w-10.


...intradevar ..crunt...mai un pic si imi da o lacrima!!!! Twisted Evil

Sa-l stapanesti sanatos si la cat mai multe tinte doborate..... Razz de hartie
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe,asta mai zic si eu chinuiala!Felicitari,sa o stapanesti sanatos! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tot luptandu-ma perioada asta incarcand 3-4 butelii/ sesiune de tragere, am cautat metode alternative de incarcare a acestora. Cum un compresor pleaca de la 9500 lei, iar o butelie de 10-15 litri ( SH) costa cam cat o pompa pt pcp, am cautat centre de incarcare butelii scuba prin zona.

Am gasit cateva centre ce incarca butelii 10-18 litri cu preturi intre 25 si 30 lei.
Cum intr-o butelie pcp intra aproximativ 0,33 litri, cu o butelie scuba umpli cam 15 buteli pcp pana sa scada presiunea. Ar veni maxim 2 lei pe incarcare. Dupa calculele mele teoretic renteaza.
Acum intrebarea mea este daca a mai incercat cineva acest lucru si renteaza si practic .
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calculele nu-s chiar asa... +in butelia mare poti baga si 300 BAR si asta schimba mult socoteala...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daca ai butelia de 10 litri si o incarci la 300bari o incarci pe aia mica cam de 30+ ori pana ajungi la 200 bari in butelia mare si de acolo tragi din butelia mare inca aproape 1000 focuri...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In putinul timp de cand am pusca am incarcat si cu pompa (hill si hatsan) si dintr-o butelie SCUBA si pot sa spun cu toata convingerea ca este incomparabil mai confortabil cu butelia SCUBA. Diferenta este ca si cum ai parcurge o distanta intr-o masina confortabila sau calare pe o bicicleta cu lantu' ruginit.
Mie, fiind o persoana careia nu prea ii place sportul si nefiind obisnuit cu activitati fizice, imi lua cateva minute bune ca sa imi calmez respiratia si pulsul sa pot lua din nou linia de ochire dupa o sedinta de dat la pompa. Acum cu butelia, toata treaba a devenit o adevarata placere.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

safe&sound wrote:
In putinul timp de cand am pusca am incarcat si cu pompa (hill si hatsan) si dintr-o butelie SCUBA si pot sa spun cu toata convingerea ca este incomparabil mai confortabil cu butelia SCUBA. Diferenta este ca si cum ai parcurge o distanta intr-o masina confortabila sau calare pe o bicicleta cu lantu' ruginit.
Mie, fiind o persoana careia nu prea ii place sportul si nefiind obisnuit cu activitati fizice, imi lua cateva minute bune ca sa imi calmez respiratia si pulsul sa pot lua din nou linia de ochire dupa o sedinta de dat la pompa. Acum cu butelia, toata treaba a devenit o adevarata placere.

Butelia este a ta sau te-ai folosit de a cuiva? eu m-as orienta spre o butelie second hand, sa nu arunc 200-300 euro pe una noua.
Voi cum ati procedat cand v-ati luat buteliile, kit-ul adaptor de incarcare de unde l-ati cumparat?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butelia e a mea, este o alveola din aluminiu imbracata in fibra de carbon si un strat ce pare a fi un fel de rasina epoxidica si am adus-o cu greu din US pentru ca in Europa astea din fibra costa enorm. Nici in America n-a fost ieftina deloc dar a fost aproape la juma' de pret fata de Europa. Butelia mea a venit cu kit-ul de incarcare atasat. Ca solutii pentru acest kit (robinet+valva+manometru+furtun) stiu ca cei de la MLD Guns aduc asa ceva la vreo suta de euro, stiu ca nu au pe stoc si ca aduc doar pe comanda.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

si ne zici si noua de unde ai luat-o?
un link ceva?
merci.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angler wrote:
si ne zici si noua de unde ai luat-o?
un link ceva?
merci.

Daca vezi cat costa te lasi pagubas Laughing
aprox 3000 lei Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angler wrote:
si ne zici si noua de unde ai luat-o?
un link ceva?
merci.


Eu am luat-o de aici:
http://www.pomona-airguns.com/PCP%20Accessories.htm dar sunt mai multe alte site-uri care vand asa ceva.

Exemple:
http://www.airhog.com/A25.01_Large%20Tank%20Set%20Page.html
sau:
http://www.airtanksforsale.com/
sau:
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Carbon_Fiber_Tank_4500_psi_88_cu_ft/350
...si exemplele pot continua. Foloseste Google cu incredere si vei mai gasi variante.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

victorbogdan wrote:
Angler wrote:
si ne zici si noua de unde ai luat-o?
un link ceva?
merci.

daca vezi cat costa te lasi pagubas Laughing


...eu m-am lasat pagubas cand am vazut ce inseamna sa dai la pompa. Preturile in US sunt cam la jumatate fata de Ro, Gasisem ceva vreme in urma la un magazin pentru pasionatii de scufundari, in Romania o butelie din asta la vreo 1200 de euro.

Oricum, exista oricand varianta unei butelii din otel, incarcabilala 300 BAR, care se gaseste chiar si pe la noi, second-hand, pe la pasionatii de scufundari, mult mai ieftin.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunt putini scafandri care folosesc butelii de otel la 300bari din cauza greutati
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ce ziceti,o butelie de stingator nu s-ar putea folosii?scrie pe ele ca sant facute pt. 200bar(unele).
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