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4.5 si 5.5 la pest.Diferente notabile?
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vlad
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ave25 wrote:
Manifestarile de care spunea Vlad sunt reactii de aparare ale organismelor vii si intr-adevar: un organism in stare de soc si inundat de adrenalina (au si mamiferele/pasarile acest hormon sau nu?) nu simte pe loc efectul unei rani de proportii.


A nu se confunda socul cu stresul! Adrenalina apare la stres, la soc apar alti mediatori. Un organism aflat in stare de soc nu simte efectele unei rani dar nici nu mai reactioneaza! Un organism aflat sub stres este hiper reactiv, si iar se poate sa nu simta pe termen scurt efectele unei rani. Dar stresul nu prea este cauzat de rana, socul da.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vlad si ave 25 are dreptate, socul are mai multe etape iar reactiile sunt de la spasm si contractii musculare, arteriale-efecte simpatice cat si umorale-secretii de adrenalina,endorfine, vasoconstrictori(angiotensina,vasopresina...) s.a.m.d. si sunt in asemanatoare cu cele din stres dar in doze mai mari.Scopul este de a limita hemoragia, de redistribuire volemica si de pregatire pt reactie pt ca este o reactie de aparare si riposta.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shock ca shock... dar nu hidraulic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock
Se pare ca e doar o teorie... phhh... sunt dezamagit...
Cat despre shock nervos... la animale = 0 : "Temporary cavitation can emphasize the impact of a bullet, since the resulting tissue compression is identical to simple blunt trauma. It's easier for someone to feel that they've been shot if there is considerable temporary cavitation, and this can contribute to either psychological factor of incapacitation.

However, if a person is sufficiently enraged, determined, or intoxicated they can simply shrug off any psychological effects of being shot; therefore, such effects are not as reliable as physiological effects at stopping people. Animals will not faint or surrender if injured, though they may be frightened by the loud noise and pain of being shot, so psychological mechanisms are even less effective against non-humans.
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sursa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_power
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:

AC Sniper: hai sa luam in considerare un exemplu detaliat si sa vedem care e mai bun, 4,5 sau 5,5, ok? Altfel avem prea multi parametri de luat in calcul: marimea tintei, distanta, greutatea pelletului, locul de impact, tipul de pellet (HP sau ascutit), etc. etc....


Dupa cum am mai spus,4,5 merge la daunatorii de dimensiuni mici iar in rest este obligatoriu head-shot pana la marimea unui iepure,pe cand 5,5 merge si in alte zone sa tragi dar si arma trebuie sa se apropie la viteza de viteza unui 4,5,altfel la distanta te cam lasa.Un 4,5 ajunge si la 1000fps pe cand pentru 5,5,ideal este 820fps cu un pelet de greutate medie.
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